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THe figure above shows a small mass connected to a string, which is attached to a vertical post. If the mass is released when the string is horizontal as shown, the magnitude of the total acceleration of the mass as a function of the angle $\theta$ is


  1. $g\sin\theta$
  2. $2g\cos\theta$
  3. $2g\cos\theta$
  4. $g\sqrt{3\cos^2\theta+1}$
  5. $g\sqrt{3\sin^2\theta+1}$
Mechanics}Boundary Condition

Getting low on time, one should begin scoring points based more of testing strategy than sound rigorous physics. At the initial release point, the acceleration is due to gravity and the tension is 0 (no centripetal acceleration). The only choice that gives a(\theta=0) = g is choice (E).
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his dudeness
2010-09-05 15:55:11		 Yosun's method is clearly by far the best for this particular problem. However, if anyone is curious about how the relation in (E) is actually derived, here you go:

The acceleration can be split into radial and transverse components. Since gravity is the only force contributing to transverse acceleration, We have a_t=gcos(\theta). To calculate a_r, we note that a_r=\frac{v^2}{r}. From conservation of energy, we have \frac{1}{2}mv^2=mgsin(\theta), so we get a_r=2gsin(\theta).

All together now: a_{tot} = \sqrt{a_r^2+a_t^2} = \sqrt{gcos(\theta)^2+4gsin(\theta)^2}. A simple trig identity gets us the (E). 		Alternate Solution - Unverified
jburkart
2007-11-02 00:23:15		A real way to do the problem is as follows. Kinetic energy is T=mR^2\dot{\theta}^2/2, where R is the length of the string; potential is U=-mgR\sin\theta. Setting the Lagrangian to L=T-U, Lagrange's equation is \frac{\partial L}{\partial q}=\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot{q}}. In our case q=\theta and we find \ddot{\theta}=g\cos\theta/R, which then yields a_\parallel=\ddot{\theta}/R=g\cos\theta. But this is only the acceleration along the direction of motion; there is also a perpendicular centripetal acceleration given by v^2/R. To find v we can invoke conservation of energy: mv^2/2=mgR\sin\theta, so v^2=2gR\sin\theta, so the centripetal acceleration is a_{\perp}=v^2/R=2g\sin\theta.

Taking the norm of the the two acceleration components, we get a=g\sqrt{\cos^2\theta+4\sin^2\theta}=g\sqrt{1+3\sin^2\theta}, answer (E).

A common mistake would be to omit the calculation of the centripetal acceleration, which would yield an incorrect answer of g\cos\theta, which ETS kindly does not give as an option.		Alternate Solution - Unverified
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his dudeness
2010-09-05 15:55:11		 Yosun's method is clearly by far the best for this particular problem. However, if anyone is curious about how the relation in (E) is actually derived, here you go:

The acceleration can be split into radial and transverse components. Since gravity is the only force contributing to transverse acceleration, We have a_t=gcos(\theta). To calculate a_r, we note that a_r=\frac{v^2}{r}. From conservation of energy, we have \frac{1}{2}mv^2=mgsin(\theta), so we get a_r=2gsin(\theta).

All together now: a_{tot} = \sqrt{a_r^2+a_t^2} = \sqrt{gcos(\theta)^2+4gsin(\theta)^2}. A simple trig identity gets us the (E).
physicsres.com
2014-11-15 12:55:37		 good answer just a typo alert.
\frac{1}{2}mv^2= mgr sin\theta
unurbat
2016-06-28 23:24:16		 Where did the \"r\" disappear when you try to find radial acceleration?
Alternate Solution - Unverified
elzoido238
2008-11-06 11:02:47		Answer choice C should be 2g sin\theta.NEC
Poop Loops
2008-10-25 20:22:52		Oh Jesus, people, get all this nonsense away. Calculations on the GRE? That's suicide!

Here's how you think of it:

When \theta is 0, the mass wants to go straight down, so a = g.

That's it. Only E survives that.

But, if you had a different choice of answers, you can also think that acceleration is a maximum at \theta = \frac{\pi}{2}, because it also has centripetal acceleration, which adds to the gravitational force at that point. This obviously corresponds to sin, so there you go.
ajkp2557
2009-11-03 13:57:32		 "Calculations on the GRE? That's suicide!"

Best. Advice. Ever. The PGRE is entirely about test taking strategy. Yes, once you are in grad school it will be very important to know how to correctly work every problem, but spending four minutes on a problem on a test that only gives you 1.7 minutes per problem isn't a smart approach. You get the same credit for the answer, regardless of how you got it.

Work smarter, not harder. Best of luck!
NEC
ayabepaula
2008-10-22 00:36:22		time= zero

{a_{total}}=g

U=mgh
F=mg=m{a_{total}}

time

t={t_{bottom}}

{a_{total}}=2g

mgh=m\frac{v^{2}}{2}

{v^{2}}=2gh

{a_{total}}=2g=\frac{v^{2}}{h}

F=m.{a_{total}}={F_{cp}}=m{a_{cp}}=m(2g)
runcibleshaw
2015-08-16 06:54:34		 I don\'t understand why the acceleration is 2g at the bottom. The total acceleration is the combination of g, which points down and the centripetal acceleration which points up, so it must be less than g total, right?
NEC
wangjj0120
2008-10-08 12:42:19		I am confused, why can't I use
mgsin(\theta)=T= force on string, so a_{perp}=0, and mgcos(\theta)=m(l\ddot{\theta})=ma_{para}, where l=length of string. From this, a_{para}=gcos(\theta)is correct, but a_{perp} is wrong. Obviously the concept is incorrect here, but why?

iplayterran
2010-03-13 17:03:00		 The tension force F_T on the string is the sum of mg\sin(\theta) and the centripetal force \frac{mv^2}{r}. If you use Newton's second law,

\sum F = F_T + F_g

and decompose the forces into radial and angular components, you have

\sum F = (mg\sin\theta + \frac{mv^2}{r})\hat{r} + (-mg\sin\theta)\hat{r} + (mg\cos\theta)\hat{\theta}

\sum F = \frac{mv^2}{r}\hat{r} + mg\cos\theta\hat{\theta}

find velocity using conservation of energy, then find the magnitude of the above vector gives the correct answer E.
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jburkart
2007-11-02 00:23:15		A real way to do the problem is as follows. Kinetic energy is T=mR^2\dot{\theta}^2/2, where R is the length of the string; potential is U=-mgR\sin\theta. Setting the Lagrangian to L=T-U, Lagrange's equation is \frac{\partial L}{\partial q}=\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot{q}}. In our case q=\theta and we find \ddot{\theta}=g\cos\theta/R, which then yields a_\parallel=\ddot{\theta}/R=g\cos\theta. But this is only the acceleration along the direction of motion; there is also a perpendicular centripetal acceleration given by v^2/R. To find v we can invoke conservation of energy: mv^2/2=mgR\sin\theta, so v^2=2gR\sin\theta, so the centripetal acceleration is a_{\perp}=v^2/R=2g\sin\theta.

Taking the norm of the the two acceleration components, we get a=g\sqrt{\cos^2\theta+4\sin^2\theta}=g\sqrt{1+3\sin^2\theta}, answer (E).

A common mistake would be to omit the calculation of the centripetal acceleration, which would yield an incorrect answer of g\cos\theta, which ETS kindly does not give as an option.
kroner
2009-10-06 22:29:16		 You don't need to do all that work to find the tangential acceleration. It's just the tangential component of gravity, which is gcos\theta.
Alternate Solution - Unverified
kb
2007-10-28 22:49:32		is E is correct, can someone explain why
a(pi/2) = sqrt(3+1)g = 2g?
kb
2007-10-29 16:52:27		 sorry, typo

"if E is correct, can someone explain why a(pi/2) = sqrt(3+1)g = 2g?"

and should go under "help!"
jburkart
2007-11-02 00:25:23		 Because at that point the mass is experiencing a lot of g's! Try swinging in a swing sometime--you feel a lot of acceleration at the bottom.
evanb
2008-06-26 19:26:17		 At the top, the energy is mgh, and at the bottom it is .5mv^2.

This leaves us with v^2 = 2 g h, and a = v^2 / r, but r = h, so a = 2g.
NEC
rmyers
2006-12-01 13:29:01		The first four words should be edited out of this solution.
lambda
2007-10-21 22:13:29		 I agree. This test can't be finished in the time allowed if one tries to apply "rigorous physics"!
ndubuisi
2011-11-05 01:52:04		 But one must answer a quetn well,rather than apply tricks n fail
NEC
Andresito
2006-03-30 12:05:12		Thank you for the advice. :)
ayabepaula
2008-10-22 00:03:57		 1)http://dev.physicslab.org/img/db0bf4f1-2f9b-428f-81a6-536588e8a7ce.gif


2)http://www.physics-lab.net/applets/simple-pendulum




U=mgh=\frac{mv^{2}}{2}
then
{v}^{2}=2gh

Gravitational acceleration:
********radial direction***************
{a_{cp}} = \frac{v^2}{Radius=h}
{a_{cp}}=\frac{v^2}{h}
then
{a_{cp}}= \frac{v^2}{h}=-2{g_{radial}}(negative sign -->{a_{cp}} and {g_{radial} --> opposite direction.
{a_{cp}}= \frac{v^2}{h}=-2{g_{radial}}( r-direction)
{a_{cp}}=-2g(cos(90-\theta))=2g(sin90)(sin\theta)
{a_{cp}}=-2g(sin\theta)
{a_{cp}}^{2}=4{g^2}sin{^2}\theta

Gravitational acceleration
********tangential direction********
{a_{tang}}={g_{tang}} (t-direction)

{a_{tang}}={g}cos\theta

{a_{tang}^{2}}={g^{2}}{{\cos^{2}{\theta}}

********total acceleration*********
{a_{total}}=\sqrt{{{a_{cp}}^{2}}+ {a_{tang}}^{2}}
***********************************************
using
cos^2\theta+sin^{2}\theta=1

{a_{total}}=\sqrt{{g^{2}}\cos^{2}{\theta}+ 4{g^2}sin{^2}\theta}

{a_{total}}=\sqrt{{g^{2}}(1-{\sin^{2}{\theta})+ 4{g^2}sin{^2}\theta}

********
therefore:

The magnitude of the total acceleration of the mass as a function of the angle \theta is:
********
{a_{total}}=g\sqrt{3sin^{2}\theta+1}

********
Paula Ayabe Pereira
NEC

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Yosun's method is clearly by far the best for this particular problem. However, if anyone is curious about how the relation in (E) is actually derived, here you go: The acceleration can be split into radial and transverse components. Since gravity is the only force contributing to transverse acceleration, We have a_t=gcos(\theta). To calculate a_r, we note that a_r=\frac{v^2}{r}. From conservation of energy, we have \frac{1}{2}mv^2=mgsin(\theta), so we get a_r=2gsin(\theta). All together now: a_{tot} = \sqrt{a_r^2+a_t^2} = \sqrt{gcos(\theta)^2+4gsin(\theta)^2}. A simple trig identity gets us the (E).

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