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Electromagnetism}Dielectric

Recall the following equations,

Also, recall the relation between bound charge and polarization,


Use the divergence theorem on the above equations to apply the elementary Gauss' Law to the region,



But, since \vec{D}=\epsilon_0 \vec{E} + \vec{P}=\kappa \epsilon_0 \vec{E}, one has D=\sigma=\kappa \epsilon_0 E\Rightarrow E=\frac{\sigma}{\kappa \epsilon_0}. Plug that into the other relation for D (and use the result for P from above) to get, \sigma = \frac{\sigma}{\kappa} - \sigma_p. Thus, \sigma_p = \sigma \frac{1 - \kappa}{\kappa}, as in choice (E).

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sevensixtwo
2006-07-31 22:25:33
Whoa, dude! This is actually nice and simple. No divergence theorem needed.

use gauss law for dielectrics with cylindrical surface. because E=0 in the conductor there is only flux through one end of the cylinder go gauss law becomes:

D A = sigma A, so D = sigma

then, D = k e0 E (Griff. eq 4.31)

so E = sigma / (k e0)

plug those values into:

e0 E + P = D (Griff. eq. 4.21)

simplify to get P = [sigma (k-1)/k] (z-hat)

then dot by n-hat = z-hat to get the bound surface charge in the conductor. then the bound charge in the dielectric just has the opposite charge so its choice E.

also, if you're not sure that we were solving for the bound charge in the conductor remember that the field in the dielectric has the same sign as the free charge. since we said the field was positive, the bound charge in the dielectric has to be opposite to the positive sign of the bound charge in the conductor.
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StudyTime
2005-11-09 21:06:49
Alternatively, you can check the limits. SigmaBound->0 for k->1, SigmaBound->SigmaSurface for k->infinity. Only choice (E) survives.Alternate Solution - Unverified
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nitin
2006-11-16 08:34:36
Let \vec{D}=\epsilon_0\vec{E}+\vec{P}.

Take the divergence of this expression:

\vec{\nabla}.\vec{D}=\epsilon_0\vec{\nabla}.\vec{E}+\vec{\nabla}.\vec{P}.

Let the permittivity of the dielectric be \epsilon_D. Then, \epsilon_0=\frac{\epsilon_D}{K}.

Now,

\vec{\nabla}.\vec{D}=\sigma,

\vec{\nabla}.\vec{E}=\frac{\sigma}{\epsilon_D}, and

\vec{\nabla}.\vec{P}=-\sigma_P.

Substitute these in the divergence equation, to get:

\sigma_P=\sigma\frac{(1-K)}{K}, which is choice (E).

NEC
bterranova
2006-10-19 14:08:52
The divergence of the polarization is related to the total charge density, not the surface charge density.Typo Alert!
sevensixtwo
2006-07-31 22:25:33
Whoa, dude! This is actually nice and simple. No divergence theorem needed.

use gauss law for dielectrics with cylindrical surface. because E=0 in the conductor there is only flux through one end of the cylinder go gauss law becomes:

D A = sigma A, so D = sigma

then, D = k e0 E (Griff. eq 4.31)

so E = sigma / (k e0)

plug those values into:

e0 E + P = D (Griff. eq. 4.21)

simplify to get P = [sigma (k-1)/k] (z-hat)

then dot by n-hat = z-hat to get the bound surface charge in the conductor. then the bound charge in the dielectric just has the opposite charge so its choice E.

also, if you're not sure that we were solving for the bound charge in the conductor remember that the field in the dielectric has the same sign as the free charge. since we said the field was positive, the bound charge in the dielectric has to be opposite to the positive sign of the bound charge in the conductor.
flutefreek
2007-10-02 02:46:27
DA=\sigma A
D=\sigma

D=k \epsilon_0 E (Griff. eq 4.31)
E=\frac{\sigma}{k \epsilon_0}

D=P+\epsilon_0 E (Griff. eq 4.21)
P=\frac{\sigma (k-1)}{k} \hat{z}
Jeremy
2007-10-24 11:25:22
Minor correction: \hat{n}=-\hat{z}, since this is the "outward" direction for the dielectric. Therefore, you don't have to hand wave the sign!
Alternate Solution - Unverified
StudyTime
2005-11-09 21:06:49
Alternatively, you can check the limits. SigmaBound->0 for k->1, SigmaBound->SigmaSurface for k->infinity. Only choice (E) survives.
thebigshow500
2008-10-14 01:35:04
I will try your method if I were you.

However, by fitting k -> \infty to (E), we get -Sigma. Is this making any sense?
gotfork
2008-10-16 15:01:48
I think this makes sense, -Sigma effectively cancels the surface charge since we don't expect to see any total surface charge since both materials are conductors.
a19grey2
2008-11-03 22:22:55
We expect to see -(Sigma) because the opposite charge will go to towards the charge on the conductor (like charges are repelled).
Also, both materials are not conductors. When k->\infty THEN the dielectric acts as a conductor. When k->1 is when the slab labeled "dielectric" is acting like vacuum would.... and since there can be no bound charges in vacuum, the bound charge \sigma_p->0.
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StudyTime
2005-11-09 21:02:38
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